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    M6AP m6 tillotsonms34a_small amal1 hedcarb2 hedcarb1 amal2 zenith2 zenith1 amalblowup hedcarb3 hedcarb4 marvelgskt_smalllinkcarbschbcrossCarburetor Model Identification & Specs for American Motorcycles

     

    Carburetor Model Identification & Specs for American Motorcycles

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    This resource is  under development, ALL additions and corrections WELCOME, in fact its a MUST!!.
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    Carbs used on competitor models are shown incase you come across one at a swap meet or auction. You can then compare nozzle, venturi, and hole sizes against the original specs for your Indian carb. This page is not (yet) intended as a rebuild or tuning resource – just serves as an identification and comparison guide. It mainly came about with me having to identify over thirty carbs in my parts pool  – hopefully it will help others too. Schebler Carburetors were manufactured in Indianapolis, Indiana, patent applied by the Wheeler-Schebler Company in Oct 1902.Notes: Drill size numbers on two hole idle (Idle2) systems are annotated (fl)=flange (in)=intake, one hole idle (idel1) on the Deluxe models are plug number sizes.
     Schebler Models G, H, C, AM  – Carb ID numbers (ID #) are stamped on the upper body casting.

    amx12aamx13_small

     

    List excludes AMX 6 and AMX13 as used on some Indian racing specials.
    <Above Left
    is picture of a rare AMX12 racing carb,, Above Right, a rarer AMX13

    For H Series Only:  The sNozzle column is the size of number drill used for cleaning spray nozzle, TheaValve column is used for size of leather air valve disc. (see photo of operation for a Model H)

     

    Schebler Model G ID # Size” Venturi “ aValve Idle2 (fl) Idle2 (in) sNozzle

    Make, model,year

    Flange Type: 2 point flange and clamp type (Indian)
    Harley Davidson
    1926-28 Single
    GX-1 1 3/4 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Indian Prince
    1926 21″
    GX-2 1 3/4 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Cleveland
    1926
    GX-3 1 11/16 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Harley Davidson
    1926-28 OHV 1cyl
    GX-4 1 1-1 1/16 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Indian Prince
    1926 Sport
    GX-5 1 7/8 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Cleveland
    1926-27
    GX-6 1 9/16 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Cleveland
    1926 Four 45″
    GX-7 1 11/16 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Indian Prince
    1927 21″
    GX-8 1 15/16 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Harley Davidson
    1927-28 Single
    GX-9 1 11/16 n/a #71 #50 n/a
    Indian Prince
    1928 21″
    GX-11 1 7/8 n/a #71 #50 n/a

    Schebler Model H

    Flange Type:  3 point flange, clamp type, leather airvalve disc
    For more info http://home.t-online.de/home/pravg/schebler.htm
    Indian Twin 5hp
    1907-08 Diamond
    HX-26 3/4 n/a 1 n/a n/a ??
    Indian Twin 5hp
    1909-11, 1915
    HX-76 3/4 n/a 1 n/a n/a #55
    Indian Single 4hp
    1912-1915
    HX-84 3/4 n/a 1 n/a n/a #55
    Harley Davidson
    1915-17 Single
    HX-94 1 n/a 1 n/a n/a #55
    Excelsior
    1915-16 Twin
    HX-104 1 n/a 1 3/8 n/a n/a #55
    Indian Twin 7hp
    1912-1915
    HX-121 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #51
    Excelsior
    1916-18 BigValve
    HX-122 n/a n/a n/a #53
    Reading Standard
    1916-24
    HX-125 1 n/a 1 n/a n/a #53
    Henderson J & H
    1917-19 Four
    HX-130 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #54
    Excelsior
    1917-19 Twin
    HX-138 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #51
    Indian PowerPlus
    1920-24 72ci BV
    HX-147 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #51
    Indian PowerPlus
    1916-1919 61ci
    HX-153 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #51
    Harley Davidson
    1920-24 Sport
    1919 opposed 2cy
    HX-156 3/4 n/a 1 n/a n/a #57
    Reading Standard
    1917
    HX-158 ??
    Indian Scout
    1920-1923
    HX-159 3/4 n/a 1 n/a n/a #51
    Harley Davidson
    1915-24 61″
    HX-160 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #55
    Excelsior
    1917-25 61″
    HX-162 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #51
    Reading Standard
    1921-24
    HX-164 n/a n/a n/a #53
    Excelsior
    1921-25 72″
    HX-167 n/a n/a n/a #53
    ?? HX-175 n/a ?? n/a n/a ??
    Indian Chief
    1922-25 61″&74″
    HX-180 n/a n/a n/a #55
    Harley Davidson
    1921-25 74
    HX-181 n/a n/a n/a #50
    Indian,P+,Std,Chief
    1920-25 61,72,74″
    HX-182 n/a n/a n/a #51
    Ace
    1920-25 Four
    HX-183 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #51
    Indian Prince
    1924-1925
    HX-184 3/4 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #55
    Indian Scout
    1924-1925
    HX-189 1 n/a 1 1/8 n/a n/a #55
    Indian Scout
    1926-?
    HX-190 3/4 n/a 1 n/a n/a #55

    Schebler Deluxe  Models A, B, (C with and without air horn) Carb ID numbers are stamped on body casting
    Notes:
    The style of carb connection for the following carbs are all 3 point flange.
    Most of these have 1/4″ gas nipples, some are 3/16. Throttle discs are numbered for idle chamfer degree,
    be aware of this if swapping discs between carbs.

    Schebler Deluxe
    Make,model,year
    ID # Size “ Venturi  “ Idle1 Idle2 (fl) Idle2 (in) Air Bleed Equiv
    Excelsior
    1912-25 74″
    1926, 45″ Sport
    DLX-8 15/16
    (DL-13)
    #4 …. …. …. DLX-27
    Reading Standard
    1921-1925 72″
    DLX-9 15/16
    (DL-13)
    #4 …. …. #55
    Indian Scout
    1920-1926 37″
    DLX-10 1 3/4
    (DL -33)
    …. #55 #55 #52 DLX-50
    Indian PowerPlus
    1916-1919 61″
    DLX-11 1 7/8
    (DL-15)
    …. #65 #50 #55
    Harley Davidson
    1915-24 61″
    DLX-12 1 7/8
    (DL-15)
    …. #71 #50 #55
    Excelsior
    1917-25 61″
    1926-27 45″
    DLX-13 1 7/8
    (DL-15)
    …. #71 #55 #52 DLX-27
    Ace
    1920-25 Four ’26?
    DLX-16 1 3/4
    (DL-33)
    #71 #55 #55 DLX-52
    Harley Davidson
    1921-24 74″
    DLX-20 15/16
    (DL-13)
    #5 …. …. #55
    Indian Pplus/Chief
    1920-24 72″ PPlus
    1922-26 74″ Chief
    DLX-21 15/16 #5 …. …. #55 DLX-14
    Harley Davidson
    1924-26 74″Racing
    DLX-23 1 1/16
    (DL-29A)
    #5 …. …. #55
    Indian
    Daytona Racing
    DLX-24 1 1/16
    (DL-29A)
    #5 …. …. #55
    Ace
    1926 Four
    DLX-25 1 3/4
    (DL-33)
    …. #71 #50 #55 DLX-52
    Indian Chief
    1920-1925 61″
    DLX-26 7/8
    (DL-15)
    #5 …. …. #55 DLX-4
    Excelsior
    1925-28 45″
    DLX-27 1 13/16
    (DL-13)
    …. #71 #55 #52
    Indian Big Chief
    1927-29 74″
    DLX-36 15/16
    (DL-13)
    …. #55 #55 …. DLX-37
    Harley Davidson
    1927 74″
    DLX-38 7/8
    (DL-14)
    …. #65 #50 ….
    Indian Scout
    1927 45″
    DLX-40 1 13/16
    (DL-40)
    …. #55 #50 #52 DLX-50
    Excelsior
    1925-28 45″ Sport
    DLX-41 15/16
    (DL-13)
    …. #65 #50 ….
    Harley Davidson
    1928 74″
    DLX-45 7/8
    (DL-14)
    …. #65 #50 ….
    Harley Davidson
    1928 74″ Police
    DLX-48 1 1/16
    (DL-29)
    …. #65 #50 ….
    Indian Scout
    1928 37″ Scout
    1928 37″ 101
    DLX-50 1 13/16
    (DL-40)
    …. #55 #55 #52 DLX-63
    Indian 101 Scout
    1928 45″
    DLX-51 1 3/4
    (DL-33)
    …. #55 #50 #52 DLX-64
    Indian Ace
    1928 Four
    DLX-52 1 3/4
    (DL-33)
    …. #71 #55 #55
    Harley Davidson
    1928 74″ Racing
    DLX-53 1 1/16
    (DL-29A)
    …. #65 #50 ….
    Cleveland
    1928 Four 61″
    DLX-54 1 3/4
    (DL-33)
    …. #71 #58 #55
    Indian 101 Scout
    1929-30 37″ 101
    DLX-63 1 13/16
    (DL-40)
    …. #55 #55 #52 DLX-50
    Indian 101 Scout
    1929-30 45″ 101
    DLX-64 1 3/4
    (DL-33)
    …. #55 #55 #52 DLX-51
    Indian Four
    1929 Four
    DLX-65 1 3/4
    (DL-33)
    ….
    Indian Four
    1930-32 Four
    DLX-77 1 3/4
    Indian Scout Pony
    1932 30.50″
    DLX-78 1 3/4 …. DLX-78A?
    Indian Scout, 101
    1931-34 45″
    DLX-79 1 7/8
    Indian Chief
    1930-32 74″
    DLX-81 15/16
    Harley Davidson? DLX-88 …. ??
    Indian Four
    1932-34 Four
    DLX-97 1 15/16 …. ??
    Indian Scout Pony
    1933-35 30.50″
    DLX-98 1 3/4 …. ??
    Indian Std Scout
    1933-34 45″
    DLX-99 1? 15/16 …. ??
    Indian Chief
    1933-34 74″
    DLX-100 15/16 …. ??
    Indian MotoPlane
    1933 45″
    DLX-102 3/4? …. ??
    Indian Std/SScout
    1934-37 45″,DT
    DLX-107 7/8 …. ??
    Indian Chief
    1935-39 74″
    DLX-108 15/16 …. ??
    Indian Scout/Chief
    1935-39 ‘Y’ S/Scout
    1939 74″
    DLX-110 3/4? …. ??
    Indian Four
    1935 Four
    DLX-111 7/8? …. ??
    Indian Scout Pony
    1936-39 30.50″Jr.
    DLX-112 1 3/4 …. ??
    Indian Four
    1938-39 Four
    DLX-113 7/8 …. ??
    Indian ThirtyFifty
    1940 30.50″
    DLX-122 1 3/4 …. ??
    Indian Four
    1940 Four
    DLX-124 15/16? …. ??
    Indian S/Scout
    1940 +Bonneville
    DLX-128 7/8 …. ??
    Indian Chief
    1940 74″
    DLX-130 15/16 …. ??

    Linkert  3 Bolt Pattern Only
    Check Victory Library for more Linkert documentation.
    Quick ID, All  1940 carbs bear the inscription “Langsenkamp-Linkert Carburetor Co….” 1941 and later bear the inscription  “L & L Manufacturing Co…”

    You will note  some correlation between model numbers and years in the numbering sequence. (see our serial database decoding table)

    Linkert Make, Model, Years ID # Size “ Venturi, “
    Indian Chief Seventy Four
    1941-1944 (M341-M344)
    1946-1948 (M346-M348)
    M341,M342, M343
    M344, M346, M347
    M348
    1¼” 1-1/16″ or 1-1/8″
    Indian Fours
    1941-1942 (M441-M442)

    M441, M442
    1¼” 1-1/16″
    Indian Junior Scouts
    ‘Thirty Fifty’ 1941-1942

    M541, M542
    1″ 13/16″
    Indian Sports Scouts
    45″  Sports Scout 1941-1942
    45″ Daytona Big Base 1948

    M641,M642
    M648
    1¼”
    1¼”
    1-1/16″
    1-1/8″
    Indian Military Scout 741 GDA
    30.50″ 1941-1943

    M741
    1″ 3/4″
    Indian Military 841 HDA
    45″ Opposed Twin 1941
    (twin carburetors, L & R)

    M841L, M841R
    1″ 13/16″
    Indian Chief 80″
    1950-1953
    (if not fitted with Amal,Police)

    M350, M351,
    M352
    1¼” 1-1/8″
    Harley
    1937-1941 UL, ULH
    1942-1948 UL, ULH
    1937-1941 UL, ULH (opt)

    M51
    M51F
    M51L
    1¼”
    1¼”
    1¼”
    1/1/16″
    1⅛”
    1⅛”
    Harley M21 1¼”
    Harley
    1941-47 Knuckle, 48 Pan
    M35T
    Harley
    1937-1952
    45″ WL WLA WLC
    M88 1¼” 15/16
    Harley
    1936-39 EL Knuckle
    M5, M5F 1¼” 1/1/16″
    Harley
    1949-1958 W and Servi-car
    M18
    Harley
    1933 VLD, 34-36 V,VL,VLD
    1937-39 WL, WLD
    M2 1/1/16″
    L&L Beck Aftermarket Replacement Carbs
    These carbs were aftermarket Linkerts remanufactured by Beck. As you can see left, there was a small INDIAN stamped under or above the model number.
    1939-1942 Chiefs M6 1¼”
    1931-1938 Chiefs M6A 1¼”
    1931-1938 Chiefs (Bonne) M6B 1¼”
    1939-1942 Chiefs  (Bonne) M6BA 1¼”
    1943-1947 Chiefs M6AP (strainer) 1¼”
    Harley 1930-1936 M6VL 1¼”
    1934-1938 Sport Scouts M6S 1¼”
    1934-1938 Sport Scouts M6SA 1¼”
    1932-1943 30.40 Jr.Scouts, All M7 , M7SA? 1
    Indian Fours, All? M8 1

    Tillotson
    The Tillotson Mfg Co. Toledo Ohio.
    <Left  MS-34A

    Tillotson ID #
    Indian Scout
    1929-30 37″ 101
    1933 Scout Pony
    MS-33A ? ? ?
    Indian Scout
    1929-30 45″ 101
    MS-34A ? ? ?

    Amal
    British designed and built Type 6 (early)  Amal Carburetors where used on some Chiefs ’52-53 (Police excluded),
    Vertical Scouts and Warriors from 1949 to 51 (I think!). Note the 3 bolt linkert manifold to 2 bolt amal adaptor.

    From the late 40’s through the early 70’s and beyond most all British, American, and European carburetors have been of similar types. Whether its an early Amal Type 6, or a Linkert, or a late Amal concentric, they all function basically the same. The major difference between American carburetors and those on British and European bikes, is that for the most part American carburetors have used a butterfly valve rather than a slide/needle to meter the air/fuel above idle.

    Amal – Type 6, Model 29 ID #
    Indian Arrow
    1949-1950
    Models 149,150
    Amal
    27?XX
    Indian Scout
    1949
    Models 249, 250
    Amal 275XX
    Indian Warrior /Warrior TT
    1950- 1951
    Model ?
    Amal 276ES
    Indian Chief
    1952-1953
     Models 352 & 353
    Amal 289R

    Zenith

    At this time I have very little knowledge on the Zeniths. I believe they were used on some 36/37 fours, i.e.. the upside down fours, particularly the sports four (dual carb). please contribute if you can.

    Hedstrom <under development>
    This is a variation (perhaps racing?) of the Hedstrom Hendee carbs as used in the early Indians

    Marvel
    Help!


    Revision History

    25/02/06 added photos on AMX12, Tillotson MS34A, Marvel and Beck carbs
    25/09/04 minor corrections to Std Scout and ‘Y’ Scout (Schebler Deluxe)
    24/07/03 Added more M series Harley carbs (3 bolt only), plus the Beck L&L aftermarket replacement
    26/01/03 More work on the Amal Carburetor
    06/17/02 Finally got around to doing something on Linkerts, thanks to Victory Library for their help
    10/24/01 Added Zenith info (for what its worth!
    07/02/01 Draft release, Schebler carbs completed, do you have more data to offer?
    07/10/01 changes to the 101 scout’s, also added Tillotsons, thanks to Erv Moller.
    (99.56.43.103)